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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Alright, there we go. Now we're up. Officially. Huzzah! With a new bedroom.

unknown 0:06

What?

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Or new orientation of a bedroom.

SPEAKER_02 0:10

New setup. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

I've got shit piled in the corner everywhere. So, how have you been?

SPEAKER_02 0:21

My week has been like chaos for some reason. And I cannot figure out why.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Well shit.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

Like I feel like I have been hitting the ground running every single morning, and I have absolutely nothing to show for it. My house is a wreck. Like I dishes? Who? Never heard of her.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Just everywhere. Yes. There's just there's fish in the living room.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

There's one fish. Two fish, red fish. Who? Was it you? I thought fuck. Yes. One fish, tuna fish.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

Oh man. The meme history. If somebody listens to this in like two years, when that is definitely out of the common lexicon of the case.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Yeah, they're gonna be like, what the fuck? What cat?

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Was it you? Was it you that's uh yeah and who?

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Was it you?

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

I will not eat the green eggs in halves. What? What?

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Spastic cocaine cat.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Oh, fucking love that cat. That cat broke me. Tony and I still look at each other and go, who? Was it you?

SPEAKER_00 1:40

You know what one gets me every time? I will start singing it. Every time I think, like every time I see it, is someone did there's a chainmail rat on TikTok. It's a little rat puppet, and he's wearing chainmail, and he's a holy paladin of some form. Okay. Cheese, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

The only holy paladin I know is the paladin of throwing it back.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Yeah, not that one. That is very good, though.

SPEAKER_02 2:05

He's a favorite.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

And then uh this one is it's a little it's a little fucking rat, and he sings Kate Bush's uh Running Up That Hill. But it's if I only could make a deal with God, two avocados for 10 bucks. He'd say that's I'm gonna sing it. He was like, That's not very good. I said, Yeah, but oh god, isn't money kind of beneath you? He said, It's the principal. I said, You want no avocados or not? And it's this fucking little puppet rat in chain mail, and it brings me so much joy.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

I feel like that is the direct stab at millennials, yeah. And our fucking avocado tote. Fuck you, I own a house.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

You know what? The I used to to be on that side of things. I used to be a little angsty libertarian guy, and uh and I remember hearing that, and I learned two things from that like time period. Because everybody used to say like they bagged on liberal arts degrees, that was a big thing, and then they bagged on, well, if you weren't spending money on avocado toast, five bucks for toast. I went and got one.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Oh, you've had it now.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

I've had an avocado toast. I could not finish the avocado toast that I bought for five dollars because the bread was like an inch and a half thick.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

So, okay, I'm gonna have to invite you fucking breakfast. Yeah, it's like I'm gonna have to invite you and M over and do and make you my avocado toast. My avocado toast on homemade bread, thick cut bacon, eggs. It's an experience. If you're lucky, I'll make pico too.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

The last time I made it for myself, I did. I got avocados. I in a in a a pan, I fried cherry tomatoes. I cut them and I fried them with with like oregano and stuff and uh and oil. And then that was my my whatever you want to call that brochetta on top. And so I was like, fuck, that shit is good, bro.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Dude, I I make mine typically with a pit with a poached egg on top.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

That there was a place, unfortunately, the shutdown was downtown that you could go get. They would have one of their things was toast. And we went down there and we got one of those, and I was like, but this is the place where we had our first like meeting about what we were gonna do first. Yeah, they don't do that anymore. The coffee is still there.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Okay, so they don't do food anymore? Because you guys, you guys took me there, and that was delicious.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

It was it was great, and it was like it was like eight bucks for what was a plate of food. Yeah. And I was like, the moment I saw how what the fucking avocado toast actually looked like, yeah, I was like, oh, this is dumb. They think it's white bread toast with one avocado. It's like, no, it's like two to three eggs, two large avocados, two slices of like inch and a half thick, like German bread, like thick, you know, like like how they have to use that cutter to cut it up. And thick cut bacon. Yeah, and bunch of style bacon and usually some kind of like veg on top. And it's like, well, goddamn, guys, this is a Denny's breakfast. Like this is just a better for you grand slam.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Why why are you so upset? And honestly, why are you so fucking upset about the avocados anyway?

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Yeah, what what's that all about? Why? They're delicious. Also, five bucks is a reasonable, is a more than reasonable these days. Price for breakfast, dude.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

And also all these people like crying about oh, you'd have more money if you didn't spend five dollars for coffee every morning. Where are you getting five dollar coffee? I would like to go there.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

That was the thing, and like I I understood that one a little bit because like my parents' generation are older. When they say they're gonna get get coffee, they mean from a gas station.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Yeah, they mean a 99 cent cup of gas station, like Texaco coffee. Yeah, and while I or their bougie buckies, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

Say we got buckies, we have pretty damn good, like 299 pretty good coffee. So I understood that one to a degree because like places like the big chains, right? Yeah, are very expensive for what you get. That being said, if you're a calorie counter like I am to some degree, that shit is a meal. Yeah, if I get a like a Starbucks coffee, I don't eat because that Starbucks coffee is 700 calories. So as a So I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

As a former Star I did it. I told you I was gonna do it. Uh as a former barista from Starbucks, that is my breakfast in the morning. Like I I have I have cracked the fucking code on how to turn my coffee into a goddamn meal that lasts me. Literally, and I don't I don't I guess it's because my digestive system is broken and it just moves really slow.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Uh but like it literally, I do I do not eat. I drink my coffee in the morning and I don't eat until I make dinner that night. And that's it.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Yeah. Because you a coffee is an appetite suppressant to begin with. But then also like the amount of mixes and sugars and syrups.

SPEAKER_02 6:59

Well, all of mine is sugar-free. Uh. So I get, you know, the Oh yeah, you get the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

If I go to yeah, if I'm gonna go to a chain for myself, my daily life, right, I make uh coffee in a like recurrently right now in a mocha with heavy whipping cream, and that's it. Yeah. And it's just a little bit, right? But if I uh if I go if I'm gonna spend eight bucks on a cup of coffee, it's gonna have fucking like chocolate shavings and shit on it. You're gonna go all the way.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Um right into the mic.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Oh man. Jones. So Joan's soda. Uh huh. I will love these to the day I die, even though they're like crazy sugary.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, it's it's the real cage sugar in them that makes them like good.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

And this was our this was our after a play beer. Oh after plays in high school. You've got nostalgia attached to it, too. Someone would go get a bunch of Jones in a big cooler and they would drop it in the middle, and they we would all drink Jones sodas.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Goddamn hyped the fuck up on sugar.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

The fucking yeah, we'd go to an after party, right? And the caps used to have little messages. Yeah. And we would all read them into each other. And you normally, because a lot of the, you know, a lot of the the ladies that do the songs, the dances, and stuff, they won't drink more than one. So you have a cooler, whereas like fucking dirty stage hands will fucking down a bunch of them and then go to sleep because they're so sugary. But it's uh yeah, I've got the nostalgia for these, for the green apple ones specifically. Forget that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

Mine is mine is the straight cream soda.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Yeah. They're really good. Yeah. There is three more in there if you want one of them at some point.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

Maybe. I gotta get I'm I I I realized yesterday, so I grounded myself yesterday. Grounded myself to my desk, no media. Like, I had my laptop to do research, and that was it. And I stayed at my desk all goddamn day yesterday when I tell you chaos procrastination is real. Like, I would jump down every fucking tangent there was off of this topic. Like, just like I now I now know more about like the dark ages of Germany than I will ever need ever again.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

I hope that your topic isn't even remotely related to that.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

It is. It is.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

I was like, that'd be the funniest thing to me.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

I did wind up in Australia for a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

And I was just like, wait, stop, focus. I sat down at like 8 30 yesterday morning. Like I had my coffee, I had my notebook, laptop, I put my phone away. Because my my I I don't know why, but I'm less inclined to like fuck about on the laptop than I am on this thing.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Yeah, uh hundred percent. Because laptop feels like official. Yeah. The phone feels like a toy. Yes. Yeah, that I I get that.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

And like I took everything away from myself, and then from like 8 30 a.m. until suddenly it was like 8 30 at night, and my husband is like, babe, what are we doing for dinner? I was like, I don't fucking know. Yeah, I don't have a clue. And I I didn't drink anything except my coffee yesterday. So I am currently I don't get anything but water for a while.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Oh, I see. You gotta stay hydrated. I never touch this. You gotta rehydrate. I know.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

I don't, but your digestive system also mostly works, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Mostly a little too much, actually. But uh, dude, people at work all the time, or my wife, everything, should be like, how do you not drink any water? Because we'll like we've gone hiking and stuff, and then I never get thirsty because I've got a bottle of water. It's because I live in a perpetual state of dehydration. So if I have water, you know what I mean? Like I feel like I've got all the water in the world, and we'll go out hiking, you know, we've been camping and we go out hiking or whatever, and I just never need more than like a canteen. But I do know people who drink like seven bottles of water a day. And that always blows my mind because Katie, I would be an unofficial fire department. I mean, like, that's I could never seven big glasses of water. I'm like, God, I've been pissing all day.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

I'm currently drinking out of one of the larger Stanleys. It's not it's not the big honkin' one. It's it's the what are you, 32 ounces? 40? What are you?

SPEAKER_00 11:44

That's like that's gotta be 40.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

40 ounces. It's the 40 ounce. I'm and I I will I will drink two to three of those a day.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

Jeez.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

Usually. Usually. It except for in cases of apparently yesterday where like thirst, hunger, not a thing.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

My life is research because I have been unable to so much as even sit down to look at research.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

I'm same all week. I got I've got nothing prepared. I'm gonna do that at some point.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

I understand completely. Like this the research on this, like I Tony, Tony Geese sent me this topic while he was still in Oklahoma. And I was like, that's good, I'm gonna use that. So pin, and then I didn't look at it again until suddenly I realized like literally, we got home from my godmother's house on Saturday. Yes, we got home from there on Saturday because we were helping her clear out a room because they were spraying for mildew. And it turns out that they weren't spraying for mildew, they were just gonna tear the sheetrock down.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

Which, by the way, like beneath the sheetrock in the in you know the room that's got the vault in it? You've been to my mom's house.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

I so I know because um her father asked me to bleach the ceiling when we lived there because moisture was collecting when you walk into the room, the door, and look straight up.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Yeah. And I was like, yeah, we we could bleach it. Just get a pole in a rag, and I So yeah, you've you've you know, you know that really that's a consistent problem.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Yes, yeah. Well, they tore the sheetrock down, and beneath the sheetrock uh of the the ceiling, the problem is beautiful pure and beam ceiling.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

Who covered that? Why? Big vaulted ceiling, beautiful. I'm like, just leave it. Just leave it. Gorgeous. But yeah, they tore all that down yesterday. She was sending me pictures while I was trying to uh research. And I'm just I'm getting more and more stressed out because I know I'm gonna have to go in and clean everything up.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Which is fine. She's my godmother. I love her, she's worth it.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

But all the dust is falling on top of everything. Yeah, because there's no way to like tear down sheetrock without putting gypsum powder everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

You get it.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

That's why they all wear those respirators all the time. They don't wear anything when they're putting it up.

unknown 14:02

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Somebody comes in to tear something down, the full the fucking full suit, man.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

The full VPE comes out.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

So yeah, that that that was that was Saturday. Like we cleaned the whole room out. And then she was like, well, they're just gonna throw like plastic on the walls, and we'll just drop plastic over this table, it'll be fine.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Yeah, I wish.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

We were incorrect. Her hallway, like where it branches, is just all the things. All the things.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Yeah. Because it just kind of floats. Yeah. Like that that sucks, but like, especially because they have a really good air conditioner and it just blows up. It's gonna blow it all down.

unknown 14:42

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

I know, because we lived we lived in their attic like like a bunch of squirrels. Well, I mean that the But like when whenever the AC, when you shut the AC off in the house or the fan off, it stops blowing up stairs. So in the middle of summer, that room would get like 90 degrees. Oh my god. So yeah, I had to put a a little like temporary standing AC and and just put the hose into the attic. And uh my god, it got hot up there.

SPEAKER_02 15:15

I would imagine. Oh Christ, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Yeah, that's why we had to that's why we moved so quick, because it was like we're not gonna survive August.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Like no, I 1,000% understand.

SPEAKER_00 15:26

Alright. We are we are like dead today. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

And the most exciting thing the most exciting thing that's happened to me is that I started reading um a Star Wars book. Red Harvest. I started reading Red Harvest, which is the prequel to um the original Star Wars zombie book that I cannot fucking remember the name of.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Oh, with the uh Sith Temples and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

I I haven't read that one. Uh fuck it. Star Wars zombies. Go, Google, go! Death Troopers. Death Troops. It happens like like a thousand years beforehand. Oh wow. It explains like the origin of the zombie virus and all of that. And it's been it's been pretty interesting. I'm I'm on chapter 30, and I think I'm so dis like disconnected from this book because all of the characters that they keep having you follow keep dying.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

So I can't form any sort of like emotional or meaning connection, meaningful connection to any of these characters.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

How do they is it Jedi or is it Sith?

SPEAKER_02 16:35

You start out in a Sith Temple, and there are two Jedi who who are ironically a brother and a sister pair.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Yeah. Um and she's she's fun. She's a botanist, which by the way, I don't know if I don't know who doesn't know this, but there are different branches of the Jedi like sect. Like the the the branch that everyone is so familiar with is like the main branch, the combat branch, the protectors, the the accidental soldiers, basically. But you have agricultural stuff, uh botanical things, uh hum human hum blah blah blah blah blah humanitarian aid style stuff. Like you have the medical corps, like there's there are all these different branches of the Jedi Temple. And it's so interesting because almost nobody addresses the fact that like the only Jedi that were like super discouraged from like you know, starting families and getting attached and all of that were like the combat branch. Like, if you if you say say you were a combat Jedi and you happen to like fall in love, oops, I have a family now, they'd be like, oh, shame on you. You're going over to the farming section. Shoot.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Is that a thing?

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Kinda, yeah. It's like you're looking at me crazy, but it's true.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

Well, it's wild to me because that's the thing that I always fucking hated about the Jedi. I get why they do that. Because like if anybody's gonna snap, it's gonna be the combat guys, right? Well, okay, so but like fuck, dude.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Like And you you know why they started the uh the the no fucking well okay, not no fucking, but like no families.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

I have no idea. Uh okay, so the I always assumed it was because of that whole like almost Zen Buddhist don't be attached to the a little bit, but there was a hot second where the Jedi were breeding way too powerful Jedi. Oh, because they were marrying other Jedi? Yeah, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

And like the for the force I'm I hate that I'm saying it like this, but the force breeds true.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Yeah, yeah. So because it's it has to do with like essentially your symbiotic connection to Metaclorians. So you're now breeding a special kind of human that's really good at housing metaclorion.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Like, oh, a character that's no longer no longer canon, I guess, is Starkiller, which is Galen Merrick.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

And both of his parents are Jedi, which is why he is like oppose Vader levels of powerful.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

Oh, so that makes way more sense now.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

As opposed to just like because I grinded a lot in a video game.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

I mean, he he he is he is very powerful because he was put through insane training.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Uh having Vader as your master is not easy. Somebody asked Ahsoka. Uh, but yeah, Galen is super fucking powerful because both of his parents were super fucking powerful Jedi who fell in love and went, oops, we're in love. I guess we'll leave.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

That's so fucking funny.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Right before the Clone War started, too.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

See. Yeah. I I mean that makes a little more sense now because they they are worried that, well, if we keep making more and more powerful things, essentially one of them will become a Sith.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Like a thousand, thousand, thousand years ago, the council went, whoa, whoa, we're tipping the scales a little too much. We're a little too powerful.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Let's not.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

That's so funny to me.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

And then a long, long, long, long, long time ago, the Jedi and the Sith were one order.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

Yeah. Yeah, I get that that part always kind of seemed like it would have to be, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Like there's a lot of Sith powers that cross over with uh Jedi powers. Like uh my one of my favorite Jedi, Plo Koon, has force lightning and he calls it final judgment.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

One of the most chill Jedi masters.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Jeez. Dude, look. That one of the things that's always like really got me about soft, like, so there's a big conversation. It's always on YouTube. It's like soft magic versus hard magic.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

And and Jedi are soft magic. Yes. Jedi are very soft magic. Like, so is Lord of the Rings is very soft magic because they don't really explain how anything happens. It's just kind of like, well, he has the secret fire. What does that mean? I have no idea. I assume it means that he has some like innate knowledge of the beginnings of all things.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

But like Prometheus, not you?

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Yeah. But like uh. And then you have like the hard magic, you know, like of I would say in a strange way, Harry Potter is Dresden. Yeah, Dresden is very hard magic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Dresden is hard magic. I fucking love Dresd Dresden. Jim Butcher. You are like your sir.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

I need this very specific plant with this very specific tool and like and to such a degree that like the really, the really good systems. Best hard. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Mistborn.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Yeah, Mistborn's really good. And you know what's really, really good too? Like of a new thing? If you haven't seen Witch Hat Atelier, I need to watch it.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

It's on my list. Yeah. He's so pretty, and all of my peeps are like wigging out about him.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

It's so good. I'm

SPEAKER_02 22:00

So I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

It's it and it's a hard magic system because of how they make magic happen. Uh-huh. And it's understandable. Like theoretically, if you watched enough of it, you could make your own thing.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

Speaking of speaking of animes with hard magic systems, Silent Witch.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Haven't seen that one. It's good. It's very I I went into it. Oh wait. I have seen the first couple of episodes.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

I went into it not expecting much, and then we got there, and I was just like she's one of like the four sages or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Like she's one of like the few people that can use nonverbal magic. She can just like magic a thing. But like you see, you still get glimpses into her head and how she transforms it from like this this magic woo into like this almost mathematical formulaic style style. Yeah. It's really cool. I I I deeply, deeply, deeply enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

Speaking of like soft magic versus hard magic, do you know what's super funny to me? And it's one of the I get to explain this to people all the time, and I actually kind of like doing it. Naruto. So those weird little hand sit signals that they're doing, those are Buddhist prayers.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Huh?

SPEAKER_00 23:12

So like a long time ago, if you wanted to if you wanted to meditate and you're doing your like sutras, right, the way that you do that silently is that you have a hand sign for each thing. And so if you've ever played um Assassin's Creed Shadows or any number of movies where you see somebody going, you can't see this, but I'm doing this thing with my hands. It's all the Naruto hand signs.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

I I the only reason that I am familiar with any of those is because of Sailor Moon, specifically Sailor Mars doing the Shintoprest.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Yeah, doing doing her incantations. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

And she wrecked shop.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

Yeah. That's funny. It's so funny to me because they're like, well, that's like they're doing their jutsu. And I'm like, well, it's a jutsu, but it's not like I mean that's a like a known thing. It's not, you know. I I do it it actually made me kind of because I'm I'm not a massive Naruto fan. I I do uh it made me like it a little more. I didn't I the later stuff is good, but it's like I've heard it's just I missed the I missed the train on that.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Kind of kind of the same way that I miss the butt the whole bus for SpongeBob.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Yeah. If you came into it as like an adult and you watch it.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

Uh what's what's the other one that's super popular with the gemstones that are people? Steven Universe. I miss the bus on that one too.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

Steven Universe, I think you would really like it's a form it's formative for a lot of queer kids because it it's like very much like Avatar was kind of like, and here's bisexual representation for the first time. Yeah, you know, like that in your whole life, and and it's on Prime Television on one of the biggest channels on cable.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

You know that I am delighted by the prospect of the live action avatar show.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Because they seem to have fucking figured it out this time.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

That movie was a travesty.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

It was so bad. Dang! What? We gotta go. And the camera going back and forth. That's right. I forgot they kept. You know what? I could almost forgive them for that because in the kind of vaguity of East Asia that he comes from. And I was like, yeah, it probably would be pronounced that way.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

You already have the auditory like cues for it. Like your fan base that you're relying on to make that oh this just turned into a film critique. Okay, let's go. So the fan base that you're relying on for the Nice for your core sales for this are the people that you are selling nostalgia to.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

Because we are the generation that grew up with the last hairbender, Avatar, Bang.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

You're relying on us to to not only go see your movie, but enjoy it and bring other people into it. And yeah, sure, you're selling other people on the graphics, possibly the storyline, and like, you know, you're you're you're also appealing to a new audience, but your core audience, your literal, like the heart beating heart of your sales are is the nostalgia crew. And then you're gonna do that shit.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

You know what also got me about that movie, and I'll never be able to not see it this way, ever. I'll always remember this. Consider the time period that movie was made in. Why are the bad guys Middle Eastern?

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

That smacked of we needed ships to make this movie. And I've always wanted to go back and look. Because there's the thing that happens if if you use like any kind of um like military hardware for anything, the military gets to have like say in your script. And so like one of the things they do is they put a little propaganda in there. So I've always wanted to know if the ship models were you CGI'd over actual ships. Oh, because that that smacked of propaganda so.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

So I I I I also caught that, but I was like, maybe they're just kind of leaning into like regional cultures for various places, because you know, we had like the Inuit being a very large i inspiration for the water tribes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

And then we had, you know, Aang's whole Airbender thing, who are just all Buddhists, like very Tibetan coded, yeah, and then his name is very like Cambodian, yeah, and then and then you you come down into the Earthbender nation, and that was leaning very um like China.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Did we even did we did we see the air the the earthbenders in the movie? I don't even remember. I saw it once like was very disappointed in the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

Because it it to me when I watched the when I watched the No, we would have had to because the whole thing ended on the uh the the war with the Southern Waterbender tribe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Fuck, I don't remember. I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

I don't know. But I remember it was where the moon dies.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Yeah, that's right. My girlfriend's the moon. Thanks, Sokka. We know.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Um Soka. His name is Sokka.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Yeah, what the fuck? They kept changing the names, and then the other thing is like if you watch the cartoon and you're aware of other cultures, you know that the Earthbender Kingdom is aggressively Chinese.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

There is no war in Bossing Sei.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

Yeah, it's called Bos Singse. You know what I mean? Like the the main secret police are called the Dai Li. And I was like, these guys are like Tong.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

I'm Judy. No, you're not. Yes, I am. I'm gonna watch that again now.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

I was like, this is political critique, and I think maybe that's why they did what they did around like changing the Fire Nation. Because the the Fire Nation is like Hello Chinese, and yeah, it's like China and Japan. Yeah, because it's like, oh, they're imperial.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Like they're so beautiful, and they got us they got a whole bunch of shit like right.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

For like, especially for like for depicting the royal family.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Like just speaking from a historical perspective. The the sh I don't know. The the the the the cartoon the animated series was so I dare say perfect.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

It it's considered by a lot of people to be like the top five American cartoons ever.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Like, I mean critique, not only for its its not only for its animation, but for the the building of the characters, the design of the world itself. Like coming at it from an author's perspective, brilliance. Like I I have I have virtually no critique for the animated series.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

That movie was god awful.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

I could rip that movie apart on the costume, hair and costume alone.

unknown 30:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Dude, I will say that one thing that I liked the the I think it's it's Netflix, right? This that does the new one. I watched it and they were you meet the uh Kyushu Warriors.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Kyoshi.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Kyoshi, the shit. Kyoshu Warriors. I want to say Kyushu every fucking time. That's okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

I struggle to say ten uh tensugi all the time.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Damn. Just because like yeah. But that scene, like I know a lot of people had people had some issues with it, I think for bad faith reasons, but like um but it looked for something that is very difficult to translate into real life, it looked good. Well and I was like, that's that's good. Like animated stuff is not easy to translate.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

To translate into live action, yeah, because we have a lot of things that are just literally impossible.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Yeah. I mean, look at all the anime live actions that are just garbage.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

I gotta say though, like, for for an anime that was that was well done into into live action, give me a second, I'm trying to remember the name of it. I can see all the characters in my head.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Describe it. It's old. Is it the Raroni Kenshin ones? No, that wasn't. Because those are fucking excellent.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

Those those were good too.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Samurai X movie is awesome.

unknown 31:39

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Oh my god. It was my metric. Oh, like literally mentioning the fact that I am old enough that this anime was relevant to me is what got kicked me out, got me kicked out of an anime group because I was, quote, too old.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

That's crazy. Um considering that all the best anime is from like the 1980s, but like, you know, back before like Mappa Studios was a thing. No, they do great work, but like, you know, we all know, right? The the nostalgic style of of like um uh Demon City Shinjuku and all those crazy ass animes that that were around Black Lion and all that stuff. Late 80s, early 90s anime is awesome. I mean, it's so weird, and you definitely cannot put it in front of kids. Yes. But uh oh my god, Ninja Scroll, Akira, all that stuff.

unknown 32:40

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

I got it. Yu-Yu Haka Show.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

Oh my god. Did they do a live action? Yes, and it was so good with the baby and everything.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

I don't remember the baby, Junior.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

He was the boss of hell.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

I don't we I don't think we got that far. Okay, I think they they only it only got one season, it got a run of like eight or twelve episodes. Uh, I believe it was on Netflix. I wish I was kidding. Like, I'm still a little amused and insulted because like I was getting introduced to the to the group, like as oh, a new anime fan. Everyone, introduce yourself. And I was like, guys, guys, be kind. I'm old. And they're like, no, no one's too old to be in here. But I was like, no, I'm you haka show old. I got booted so fast.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

That's so wild. It's like, what were they were they what was it the security thing? Or they were that like still don't know.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Like, I never I never even like clicked back into that group. I like I got booted, and I was just like, okay. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

All right.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Bye.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

Uh you have fun with One Piece. Yeah, like yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

I'm Yu-Gi-Oh Haka Show old guys.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Deleted, picked from the group.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

I feel like it's that's a weird thing to do with anime specifically. Because there aren't a lot of little kid anime.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

Okay, so yeah, Yu-Gi-Oh Haka show, the live action got one season and it was five episodes. And when I tell you that I binge watched it and I was not upset, I enjoyed every fucking second of it.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

Oh man. I may have to check that out at some point then. Because the show was very formative for me. It was a tsunami school. It was like back when we were hanging on every fucking episode of Dragon Ball Z. Oh my god. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Or when they and when they ran when when the network ran out of episodes and started it the fuck over.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

Yeah. When they that god-awful speech that Goku gives Frieza about like, I am the light, or whatever he says, that's like a Superman speech.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Screaming for seven episodes with the spirit bomb.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Yeah, it's you know why they did that? Because the company that imported it over, who I think was Konami or somebody, I don't know, but uh, I forgot. There was there's a couple of different dubs, like the Oceans dub is like the really bad one. But then there's uh so they didn't think that an American audience could like understand a character like Goku that just wants to fight. Because that's the thing, is like in the American translation that we're used to for Tsunami, they changed a lot of his lines to make him seem more moral than he actually was. Whereas like Sans are stupid. Yes, like they will let you power up because they just want a bigger fight, regardless of how much damage it does to everyone around you. They're supposed to be kind of morally gray at all times. That's why Gohan's so weird.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Yeah. You know, it's like that's Gohan is also half human.

SPEAKER_00 35:47

Yeah, that was kind of And his mother is Chi Chi. Right.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

If he didn't learn manners and morals, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

And that it's like the joke of Dragon Ball Z is that he's Song Wukong. He's he's Journey into the West. Yeah, right? He's the monkey king. It's that's why they got tails and everything, right? But he's like the arrogant side of that. And instead of following Journey into the West beat by beat, like they kind of do in Dragon Ball, like he even meets a pig and a cat.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Right? So, like what they do is that they use other characters to show the evolution, right?

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Well, who are the characters that just went away and never came back?

SPEAKER_00 36:27

In Dragon Ball?

SPEAKER_02 36:29

Dragon Ball and early Dragon Ball Z.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Oh, like uh Chao Tzu and who is a vampire, by the way. Choot Tzu is a Chinese vampire. That's why he looks like that.

SPEAKER_02 36:39

You told me you tell me that, and like it immediately clicks. Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. I feel so stupid that it took me this long. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

And then that's why they he appears at that like fighting arena where they keep summoning ghosts because he's a ghost.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Okay. I have to out myself for just a second. So I am I am a massive Kingdom Hearts fan. You know this. Yeah. Because you've known me forever. And so Kingdom Hearts is my jam. Like, I bought my first PS2 specifically to play Kingdom Hearts. Been with this game for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

Played all of them, own a couple of them several times over. Do you know that I was this week old when I realized that Yen Sid is just Disney backwards?

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Never even thought of it.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

It never fucking occurred to me until like we were watching the trailer for King for Kingdom Hearts 4, like the little teaser thing that they put out.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

Not even the proper trailer yet, just a little teaser trailer. And Tony looks at me and tells me, like, uh it was only a few years ago that I figured out that Jens did his Disney backwards.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

And I apparently slow turn towards the Yes.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Looked at him and he said, What? And apparently the look on my face was the equivalent to being hit in the back of the head with a baseball bat. Dude, you know what blew my mind because it never fucking occurred to me.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

It me neither. I mean, granted, I didn't play him a ton, but I I would have figured that well, this is my very poor understanding of dyslexia, but I would have thought You'd think it would click to me if you would have seen it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

So like no fucking clue.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Do you know what else what I love telling people about Dragon Ball that really pisses them off? So a lot of their names are based off of like vegetables and shit, right? Yes. So sometimes I like to tell people that Piccolo is a bug. Because that's the thing, right? He's green, he's supposed to be an alien, he's got alien tendrils and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

He's got two little antenna.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

But when you look at his musculature, the like yellow panels with cross lines, and then think of like any beetle.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Yeah.

unknown 38:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

And then also when you kill him, he can spit eggs.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Or or like when you lop a limb off, it'll grow back.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

Yeah. And I was like, yeah, man, that's he's like a cross between a lizard and a roach.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Also, I was I was the weirdest fucking kid. I had the worst crush on him.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

You're not alone in that. So he's been adopted like wholesale, because he's the best, he's one of the best characters in the show. So like the the black community as a whole has kind of like like the anime black community has a kind of adopted Piccolo. Period. It's like Piccolo is a black man. And then when they say like why, and he goes, Well, here's the thing like he represents the best parts of like what we want to be as adult black men. He's a he's strict, but he's a good father. He's always there, he's a good teacher.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

Um he practically raised Gohan.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

He yeah, and he'd much better job than his actual dad did, right? And then he's like super vigilant, but he's also like as he grows, he really grows. He like he literally assimilates and like into other people of his own culture to learn about his past, gets stronger, and gets way more introspective. So like when you see like Piccolo in the very beginning, it's kind of like evil, right? King Piccolo is an evil character.

SPEAKER_02 40:11

A little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Over the course of time, though, in a very Song Wukong way, because he's kind of a side by side to Goku Song Wukong in the story, like encounters a bunch of stuff and over the course of time becomes a good person, right? Piccolo, when he is defeated and like kind of becomes a different person, he spits the egg out, he gets born, kind of reincarnates, right? And then he spends a bunch of time in between that period and the fight with Raditz, wandering around and training.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

And just learning.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

Yeah, when you meet him again, he is an adult. He is no longer King Piccolo, he is like a fully established adult. And I listened to somebody talk about this, and they were like, that mirrors how a lot of people kind of see themselves as being like an unruly child, but then like becoming a man and that having this perspective with it. It was the coolest thing to listen to this guy like break down why he associates Piccolo with like that's the goal, right? Like, this is this is like if there's a black character in Dragon Ball Z that we like really associate with and want to be like, it's Piccolo. And I was like, that's really cool. I really like that, and I see where you're coming from. Like, and so it was it was awesome, and I was like, that's that's badass. Um, because he's definitely an aspirant character, like, especially by the end, he's like he never stops trying. And there was a critique of him for a little while that like, well, he only gets he only gets stronger by like combining with people. But if you're looking at that critically, you could say that he draws his strength from his own community, right? Like, yeah, and so you're just like, because these are people who are dying. He is literally drawing his strength from his his his uh his culture and sometimes his ancestors. It's like people have pointed that out, and like this is very indicative of how like West African society kind of works, and I was like, that's really neat, like to see what is kind of a dumb show.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

Get something so terribly right every now and again.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Yeah, I love Dragon Ball Z because I grew up on it and I really, really love it.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

Um Sailor Moon was mine, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

I don't like the new stuff as much, even though it's awesome. The fight scenes are all great and all that kind of stuff. I just think the show, my perfect ending is Teen Gohan Killing Cell.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

That's where Z should have stopped.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

100% agreed, and then pick it back up with the new stuff where it's just the tournament of power and everybody's fighting each other, because that's what we're all here for.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

And Mr. Satan.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

Yeah, because the Bibity Bobbity Boo thing fucking sucked.

unknown 42:59

Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

Other than Majin Vegeta, who fucking rocked. But Majin Vegeta rocked.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

I'll be I'll be perfectly honest. Anything involving Vegeta.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Just like.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

That's your guy. Yeah.

unknown 43:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

He does literally get so like the one time you ever see Balma get hit, he becomes like And loses his fucking mind. You're just like, hell yeah, get him.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

You touched my fucking woman.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

You die now.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

Oh man. And like Vegeta is another character that's very much like that. It's weird, like thinking about Dragon Ball Z as a Sung Wukong reference because you're like, Yeah, I can see it with every character. Except for Gohan. Gohan is like the scholar from the start. He's the scholar. Um who has Like, and if you took it all the way back to like Chinese folklore, he would be like the natural the Taoist. He would be the Taoist in the story because he just has a lot of natural energy and um and and smarts. But like it it's such a weird show to pull apart because it is just about space people fighting.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

Isn't that the fucking truth? A lot of the like fucking Gundam Wing.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

Like there, dude, there's another one that I like zeroed in on the toxic character. Wufe was my manager.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

And now you die. Yeah, like, oh man. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 44:38

What was wrong with you?

SPEAKER_00 44:39

He was so fucking mean, dude. He was just like every him and hero were just like, and now we're gonna kill everyone in the whole room, right? Yeah. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

The guy's cracking doo, not wise cracking duo. No, no. Not sweet little Catra, not quiet Troa.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

No, no, no, no, no. The fucking whatever the fuck was wrong with Wufe.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

He was just, he was fucking soldier to the bone, dude. Because duo, duo's fucking Gundam was called fucking Death Scythe.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

And he was the chillest guy. He was so like, what the fuck? I will look straight up though. Straight up. The first time I ever saw Gundam.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Zex Marquise. Yeah. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Zex Marquise was fucking badass. So was fucking Lucretia Noing and all his badass. The characters were so good. There's the first time though that I ever went like I saw a cartoon and then just went like, whoa, I don't like that. Was Epion. When they showed Epion for the first time. That was the the crazy, like how the tall geese had that weird targeting system, and then Epion was like the devil Gundam, basically. And it shows up, it would fade and it would like Death Scythe that had like a camouflage ability, but it was all red and covered in spikes, and it would just like appear behind you. And I was like, is this fucker the boogeyman? Like it had a laser whip. I mean, like, it was just it, it was like if you made a ballrog into a gundam, and I was like, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

Dude, Gundam Wing ruled my friend group for the longest time.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

And like that said.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

Endless waltz.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

Yes. Yes. And I like all of the girls had picked out their their favorite their fave their favorite Gundam dudes. And like it was weird that I wasn't part of the fight for Zex at all. Like I would like, I had like, yes, he's attractive. Yes, I understand his torment. That's too much baggage even for me. So anyway, Wuffet. Girl, what is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_00 46:57

I would like a narcissist with a giant two-handed dow, please.

unknown 47:02

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

He chilled out by the end of the series like a lot.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

Because he got like fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 47:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

Real bad.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

But I zeroed in on him hard on like what episode did he pop up in in like episode three?

SPEAKER_00 47:14

Yeah, because he's on that fucking like aircraft carrier and he just shows up and starts burning. Jeez, man.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

That one. That one's mine. What's wrong with you, 12-year-old me?

SPEAKER_00 47:29

My favorite, one of my favorite parts of that whole show.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

I still sketch him from time to time.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Yeah. Yeah. I love there's a thing where. Oh my god, what were their names? Uh Quiet Guy and Soft Boy.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

Oh, Catra and Troa.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

Katra and Troa. So they were like a couple.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

That that that yes, that is, that is literally, I believe that's a canon OT OTP.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Yes. If they're if they're not lovers, they are at least emotionally that close.

SPEAKER_02 47:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

And so, and I believe lovers. It's just that because we live in America, dear viewers, we censor the shit out of anything that's like perceived a teen or kid show.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

So evidence Sailor Moon, Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune. They were literally lovers. Canonically, they were lesbian lovers together. They turned them into cousins in the cartoon.

SPEAKER_00 48:21

Kissing your cousin. Like the fuck? Yeah, why is your cousin taking a shower with you? What the hell's going on here? But so like there's that, right? But there's that there's that ambush scene where where the where fuck I've already where Catra goes like fucking ape shit.

SPEAKER_02 48:38

Oh, Catra loses your fucking mind.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

He's like going in and out of the dunes just murking people.

SPEAKER_02 48:45

Psychopaths.

SPEAKER_00 48:46

Yeah, it was like you're the dude that loses every fight. You just had a body count of like a hundred people in one episode.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

Okay, okay, let me allow me to rephrase this. You don't fuck with Troa because Catra will come after you.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

I was like, what are y'all the band of thieves? What the fuck is happening? It was like, I thought he was the dangerous one. And then he was like, no, apparently, if this very specific Gundam is piloted a very specific way. He was also like because He was the he was the soft little rich boy. And he was one of the guys that like he eventually starts using the Toggy system. And it's like the one that was like hurting people. And I was like, man, because he becomes in a very weird way, kind of like he's he's what you want to be in the story. You know what I mean? Like he's he's like an everyman, he's not particularly good in a lot of the fights and stuff, but he is a main character, and then like halfway through the thing, he's like taking on challenges that he really has no business taking on. Meanwhile, Hero's got a fucking double buster rifle that's bringing down ships and shit.

SPEAKER_02 49:52

Like you're and Rolina Screechcraft.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:57

Hero! Girl, shut the fuck up. He doesn't want you. No, move on.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Oh, you have you ever watched Ironblood Orphans? My god, you thought Gundam was dark. Iron Blood Orphans is about the Mars mining colony. Oh. And they use child soldiers. This is in the time period before Gundam when they have to use like spinal taps to make you like shit. Via like Evangelian type systems where it's like fusing with you to some degree. And the more that you have, the better you can like respond to the Gundam. Uh huh. The problem is they're very dangerous, and sometimes they paralyze people. Yeah. So children are used because their bones are not rubbery. Yeah, and they're they are young and can survive shit like that.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

And they can adapt very easily.

SPEAKER_00 50:50

So there's these basically slaves on a mining colony, and it's the story of them like taking to the stars.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

Please help me remember to watch this because like crazy. This jaunt down memory lane is make is making me desperately want to re-watch a whole bunch of shit I watched as a very young teenager. Yeah and like didn't understand where it was should have been going.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Oh man, dude.

SPEAKER_02 51:18

I I wish to watch these things with an adult eye in mind now.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

The politics of Gundam. That's why it's so loved by people. It's like if you follow the whole storyline, you're like, oh, this is about like this is about like tyranny and anarchy. Yeah. The whole thing is about politics. And and then you go into shows like Claymore.

SPEAKER_02 51:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:39

That are just like, oh, here's how religion can be monstrous. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

Of religion being monstrous. Sentenced to be a hero.

SPEAKER_00 51:47

Yeah. Or uh Madoka Magica, if you've ever seen that. Holy shit. That that got dark fast.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

We are out of nowhere. Yeah.

unknown 51:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

We went from being fucking dead at the beginning of this pre-show. I got this is why we do the pre-show, though.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

Yeah, yeah. You charge yourself up.

SPEAKER_02 52:04

And now we're like hype.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

I got magic girls of fucking guns.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 52:13

Do you know I I find it so funny though, talking about older anime, and I think this does actually separate like our age group from a lot of the younger people. Because now you have everything. Oh, yeah. Every trope has been ex has been explored.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

As someone that is a constant consumer of the isek eye, reborn, the the the the flip-flopped villainous trope. Yeah. Fucking love it.

SPEAKER_00 52:41

There are some gems in that. Like I I recently watched the first line of major arcs, anyways, of um Ranking of Kings.

SPEAKER_02 52:51

Which one's that one?

SPEAKER_00 52:52

It has a very like goofy um Nino Cooney art style, right? Kind of looks like uh the game Nino Cooney a little bit, uh, which is like Studio Ghibli-esque.

SPEAKER_02 53:03

Aww. And it's Oh, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

Yeah, see it does, right? You're just like, oh shit, yeah. And it's actually very good. It doesn't look like it would be it's so cute.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

It's so bubbly.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

Lot of blood. Uh shit. Yeah, like but it's real good. Uh and damn, dude, but I think our generation, like, we used to have to stay up in the middle of the night to see anything.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Literally.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

If you had the action channel, it was Anna Mondays.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

Or if you had particularly kind parents, you set the VCR in the living room.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:37

To record it.

SPEAKER_00 53:38

Yeah, it's your your your midnight run of Toonami.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

That's how I saw Samurai Champloo. I had to record it.

SPEAKER_02 53:44

Yes. Samurai Champloo. What was the other what was the other one?

SPEAKER_00 53:47

Um Cowboy Bebop.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

Oh, who doesn't love Cowboy Champ?

SPEAKER_00 53:50

Goddamn goat.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

If you don't love Cowboy Bebop, you are incorrect.

SPEAKER_00 53:53

Yeah, you're wrong.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

You are just wrong.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

You're wrong. It's like saying you don't like you like paintings, but you don't like Rembrandt. You're wrong.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_00 54:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

I don't like pie. What do you not like? The shape?

SPEAKER_00 54:05

What? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:07

What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_00 54:08

To me, it's on that level, right? It's it's like because it's so fucking good. Yeah. And it's like it's a show where they it's one of the only shows where the English dub is universally thought of as better than the original Japanese. Yeah. That shit is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

And like, so dude, the characters are still being referenced in like modern pop media.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

Like a song that I just recently listened to that I was not fucking paying any attention to. Like it was just on while I was doing stuff. And this bitch popped out with Faye Valentine, hottest bitch alive. And I was like, yes, she is. That's right. Restart this song. What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_00 54:46

Where did that where did you put the gun? Where did she put that gun?

SPEAKER_02 54:51

Subspace Pocket.

SPEAKER_00 54:52

Yeah. Yeah, something pocket. Jesus. So like, dude, dude, look, you know what I found out recently about Cowboy Bebop? So the real folk blues and a lot of the Yokokano. Um, because Yokokano, a lot of us hear that if you're a fan of Bebop and you go like, oh Yokokano, she did all the music. No, she she directed the music and she did a lot of the instrumentation. The singer that that is in real folk blues and a lot of the other one, like Cats on Mars, not Cats on Mars, but a couple of the other.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

I know the I know the music. I that is okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:31

I respect that.

SPEAKER_00 55:33

So that was a Japanese pop star from like the City Pop era from like the late 1980s, and you can find all of her music on YouTube, on YouTube music, that very specific voice. And it's just like I didn't know that. But she was a famous musician in her own right, way outside of that's super cool.

SPEAKER_02 55:54

That's that's kind of how like I can I can clackutada hikaroo on like anything.

SPEAKER_00 55:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that's you start hearing them and you're just like um I know you. It's it's like uh the the the singer Lisa, yeah, very known for anime, but is just an artist in her own right. She has tons of history.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Lisa, who who recently did a collab with the straight kids.

SPEAKER_00 56:14

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Very cool stuff, man.

SPEAKER_02 56:19

I have a package waiting for me at home.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

Yay! But all right, so we are an hour.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

We are we are properly hyped. We are good to go. Alright, why are you blowing on the mic, you fucking weirdo?

SPEAKER_00 56:34

I was about to say something, I just forgot what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Oh, I hate it when that happens.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Anyways, we'll see ya.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

We'll catch you in the actual show. Bye guys.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

See you later, spice cowboy.